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3:44 pm
January 15, 2010


Mark G

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Sorry, I'm coming to this a bit late but I thought I'd chip in anyway!

Speak to at least three or four builders first. They'll explain the need for surveying, plans, building regs and give you a quote for the job. Try the following:

Trim Loft 020 8504 4334
Setform Projects 020 8504 5969
Julian Tooby 020 8502 2395

They all have websites if you want to have a look at previous work and testimonials.

Marc is right about costs. If anyone is much cheaper, ask them how come but beware.

If you want to cut costs by doing some work yourself I recommend you speak to the builder about it first and they'll point you in the right direction. It would be fine to lay insulation and boards for storage but it's fairly likely that the joists that make up the floor of your loft are only designed to support your bedroom ceilings and, in order to conform to building regulations, would need to be strengthened for a proper loft conversion.

9:18 pm
November 25, 2009


PH

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£800 for a survey sounds like an awful lot. You might actually be able to get the Freehold itself for just a bit more. As far as I know the rules on selling freehold are not set in stone. The amount a Freeholder can pay for freehold is not necessarily based on anything specific, for instance the remaining years on your lease. Don't quote me on that though. What I have heard though is that it really is a bit of a lottery. You simply put in an offer that you think you can afford and the freeholder accepts or rejects it. 

I would also say that 25k for the conversion itself is a bit steep when you consider that alot of the work can be done yourself if you're a little bit 'handy'. Laying insulation is unpleasant if you use Rockwool / Glassfibre but it needn't be if you use a cheap paper- overall or work cloths from Oxfam and a basic face-mask. Alternatively you can use Sheepswool or expanded polystyrene. I know it sounds crazy but wool is totally appropriate; it's relatively local, helps the struggling UK sheepfarming economy and as long as it has been treated with Boron Salts it'll not attract moths. Here are some more good options…

http://www.which.co.uk/advice/…../index.jsp

Laying a floor is simply a matter of buying a cordless screwdriver (anything from 30 to 100 quid), a rip-saw ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_saw ), some screws and getting chipboard sheets delivered from your local B&Q. You don't even need to pre-drill the holes with Chipboard and if you're not confident with a 'Cordless' then use 2.5 inch nails and skew/tosh them (nail them in less than perpendicular to the board's surface) so they won't work their way out—as long as the all fit tightly.

If you do that then you will have saved yourself a considerable amount and the builder can come in and do the rest; like fitting lights, cupboards parallel to the eaves ( where you wouldn't even be able to crawl ), putting in windows and laying carpet. If you already have floor insulation up there then you just need to check if it is still fluffy and maintaining it's required thickness. Over time they flatten a little particularly if there is a lot of dust… from previous roof work or simple climate related expansion and contraction. Besides, we have more demanding building regulations now than we did 20-30 years ago.The Loft insulation underneath the roof-proper is something which will be more difficult mainly because fixing boards over the roof joists can be very strenuous, especially if you're working alone. You will probably want to leave this to a professional.

To be honest, the most disruptive piece of construction work you may need to have done is the addition of a rolled steel joist (RSJ or steel i-beam in lay-terms) to take the load of a newly habitable space in the roof. And this is why you really do need a surveyor or qualified architect (RIBA part 3 ARB certificated) to look at it.

4:18 pm
October 28, 2009


jo

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Marc said:

Hi, firstly you have to get permission from your freeholder. This involves submitting drawings to them so they can take a look, which involves an admin fee. You then have to pay for their surveyor to come and take a look, which I think last time I asked was £800. You don't need planning permission because it's a loft conversion (under 40 sq m). Once the freeholder says yes you can then look for a builder. A neighbour had his done for approx 20k (he didn't have a dormer). Neighbours opposite paid 25k for theirs because they had a dormer and a bathroom put in. This doesn't include architects drawings which are a futher £500-800.


Hi Marc

thanks for drawing my attention to this forum.  If you say your neighbours had theirs done for about £25k inc bathroom then the amount we were quoted does seem a little high!  Have you any dealings with your neighbours that you can ask them for the contact details for their builders or I am back to square one, ie just posting if anyone knows of any reputable companies that can do the damn thing at a reasonable cost.  Jo

10:44 pm
July 22, 2009


Marc

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Hi, firstly you have to get permission from your freeholder. This involves submitting drawings to them so they can take a look, which involves an admin fee. You then have to pay for their surveyor to come and take a look, which I think last time I asked was £800. You don't need planning permission because it's a loft conversion (under 40 sq m). Once the freeholder says yes you can then look for a builder. A neighbour had his done for approx 20k (he didn't have a dormer). Neighbours opposite paid 25k for theirs because they had a dormer and a bathroom put in. This doesn't include architects drawings which are a futher £500-800.

9:43 pm
July 22, 2009


blackhorseroad

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posts 28

I'd be interested in finding out about this too.

Theres the size of my front room in the loft above, which seems a waste for the few boxes I keep up there. Would love to know the costs involved, or practicalitys like where the stairs would go?

8:36 pm
July 22, 2009


thirtyonebit

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Hello – I am thinking about converting my loft (in a Warner flat) into an extra room. Has anyone experience of doing this and can advice on the process and a reliable builder?

Regards

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